List of recurring arguments

A list of controversial topics CE commonly argues about. Any mention of these subjects can quickly fall victim to a flame war.

''Please don't be biased when editing and don't actually try to argue or debate on this page. This is not CE.''


 * Religion. Does God exist or was the universe formed by the Big Bang? Is religion evil?
 * Gay marriage. Should gays be allowed to marry or should we protect the sanctity of marriage?
 * Usage of the word "gay" (and slurs) as an insult. Are they implying that being gay is bad or are they not referring to literal gay people at all?
 * Illegal immigrants. Is it racist or not to enforce illegal immigration laws?
 * Feminism/women's rights. Should women be believed when they accuse men of rape without providing proof? Is having sex with a woman who is drunk while not drunk oneself rape? Should a man be viewed as a hero if he gets one over on a woman while women should be seen as b****es when men get theirs?
 * Capital punishment. Do murderers/rapists/child molesters deserve to die? Is detterence really the most effective tactic of preventing people from breaking the law? Is the retribution of death proportional to the crime if, for example, someone gets run over by a train in his haste to get away after robbing somebody else?
 * Pedophiles. Should they be automatcially jailed/put to death or should they only be judged if they act on their attractions? Are pedophile sympathizers pedophiles themselves? Should there be more anti-pedophile laws?
 * Lolicon. Harmless cartoons or will anyone who gets off on them move on to real children? Can loli fans be considered pedophiles assuming they're not targetting real children? Are fictional depictions of child molestation comparable to fictional depictions of other crimes like murder? Should it be punished as harshly as real cp or not illegal at all?
 * Furries. Harmless hobby, or are they attracted to real animals? Can anti-furries be compared to racists and homophobes? Do furries get too much hate?
 * Circumcision. What are the benefits of cut vs. uncut?
 * Aspergers syndrome. Does it really exist or is it just an excuse for people who are too lazy to go out and socialize? Do too many people diagnose themselves with it after reading a list of symptoms for 5 minutes and going "Dude, that totally sounds like me"?
 * Suicidal people. Are they cowards for taking the easy way out of a temporary problem? Are they selfish for not thinking about their family/friends who would be devastated, or are the family/friends the selfish ones for wanting the suicidal person to continue taking **** instead of finally ending it all?
 * Pretty much any incident where someone is beaten up after an argument. Was the attacker justified, or should he/she not have resorted to violence?
 * Parental rights. Should parents be allowed to beat their kids for being little snots? Is it okay for parents to kick their adult kids to the curb for arguing or forgetting to do a chore?
 * Lady GaGa. Talented singer or just looking for attention? Woman or man?
 * PC vs. console gaming. Is it more accurate to use a controller or keyboard/mouse? Is it better to spend up to $1500 on building a machine and upgrading every 2-3 years or to spend $200 on a console with worse graphics and no mod support?
 * Nintendo vs. Sony vs. Microsoft. Is Nintendo appealing too much to casual players and grandmas? Does the PS3 really have any games? Do any of the three's consoles have the same games over and over?
 * Mac vs. PC. Do Macs appeal too much to non-computer savvy people? Does owning a Mac make you a hipster? Are PCs too prone to viruses?
 * Anything popular. For example, is anyone who buys all the new Apple products just a mindless zombie who... buys... all the new Apple products?
 * Piracy. Is it stealing? Does it harm the industry? Should we be entitled to any software or music we want for free or should we support the programmers/artists? Are copyright holders justified in suing people for copyright infringement? Should more measures be taken to stop piracy? Is SOPA neccesary?
 * Obtaining physical copies of music/movies/TV shows vs. downloading/streaming. Is it a waste of time to order or go out and buy discs when you could be downloading/streaming instantly? Is there any Internet connection too slow to download/stream?
 * My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. When someone watches an episode and decides they don't like it, is it a legit argument for bronies to say "That one was never very popular. Watch a good episode."? Was the show created exclusively for little girls or created for everyone in mind, including grown men? Are bronies manchildren or pedophiles using the show to lure children? Do all bronies look like the ones in the meetup pics? Are all bronies sexually attracted to the ponies? Can the ones attracted to the ponies be considered freaks even by the "normal" bronies? Can everyone who likes the show be considered a brony? Did Derpy's initial voice make her sound mentally challenged? Was Hasbro right to censor Derpy? Should people have the right to complain when Hasbro pulls episodes from Youtube?
 * The Simpsons vs. Futurama vs. Family Guy vs. South Park. Which of them has gotten worse or are they all still enjoyable? Or have any of them sucked since the beginning? Which show is the most preachy? Did Family Guy suspiciously start getting really unpopular when the Cartoon Wars two-parter of South Park first aired?
 * Seth MacFarlane's shows or any of Adult Swim's live-action shows (especially Tim and Eric). Are they ****ing hilarious, or are their fans morons with horrible taste?
 * Non-Nintendo/third-party characters in Smash Bros. Should the crossover aspect of Smash Bros. become like the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny? Are Goku, Naruto, or Twilight Sparkle stupid ideas because they're not owned by Nintendo or third-party game companies?
 * Tipping. Should we keep the money we earned, or should we help pay the waiter's salary?
 * Steak. Rare, well done, or in between?
 * Mathematics. Does .999... truly equal one? Does -4^2 equal -16, 16, or some other value?
 * Wiping while standing up vs. wiping while sitting down. How should one wipe after a long trip to the bathroom?
 * $200 jeans. Are they more fashionable than Walmart jeans, or are they a waste of money? Note that nowadays, topics about $200 jeans are parodies of earlier topics about them, and everyone argues just for fun.
 * Butters and Dead Guy Hubbin. Are they the same person, or are they tag-team trolling CE? Can the mods be believed when they say they're not the same person, or is it possible that he's using proxies to keep both accounts on different usermaps?
 * Bose, Monster, and Skullcandy headphones. Are they a rip-off? Do they sound good?
 * College majors. Is engineering truly the best major? Are liberal arts majors useless? Is the yearly pay the most important factor in determining what majors are good or not?
 * The TSA. Are their security measures really too extreme? Is it possible for them to walk the fine line between adequate security and invasion of privacy?
 * The definition of "90s kid". Are people born in the 90s considered 90s kids or 00s kids?
 * Pokémon. Are the newer generations better or worse than the older generations?
 * Breaking Bad. Is Skyler a b**** or a victim of Walt's?